Should we believe TIME, and MSNBC who tell us a low grade civil war is already underway and about to explode into mass violence?
Or should we believe the numerous bloggers, and reporters (who are not hiding behind the green line) on the ground in Iraq who say this reporting is way way overblown?
Like this post from 24 steps to Liberty (what a fantastic name!)
You guys always said you don’t get all the news from Iraq. And I always agreed with you!
I was shocked today when I read the news in the foreign newspapers. No one emphasized the marvelous cooperation and solidarity between the Shiites and the Sunnis in Iraq yesterday after the bombing of one of the most respected and visited holy sites in Islam, the Askariyah shrine, which is in Samarra city north of Baghdad.
The first reaction to the bombing which “targeted a Shiite†shrine came from the Sunni residents of Samarra. The first demonstration to condemn the attack was held spontaneously by Sunnis in the area where the shrine is. Almost all Sunni leaders went on TV to condemn the attack and show solidarity and unity with the Shiites.
What about the experts like Victor Davis Hanson who explains in his must read article Standoff In Iraq That we are training tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers and policemen who are systematicly taking over the security responsibility in Iraq?
You have to read the entire piece where Hanson lays out our and Al Qaeda’s strategy for Iraq and what will decide who wins or looses.
Again, the question now is an existential one: Can the United States — or anyone — in the middle of a war against Islamic fascism, rebuild the most important country in the heart of the Middle East, after 30 years of utter oppression, three wars, and an Orwellian, totalitarian dictator warping of the minds of the populace? And can anyone navigate between a Zarqawi, a Sadr, and the Sunni rejectionists, much less the legions of Iranian agents, Saudi millionaires, and Syrian provocateurs who each day live to destroy what’s going on in Iraq?
The fate of a much wider war hinges on the answers to these questions, since it would be hard to imagine that bin Laden could continue be much of a force with a secure and democratic Iraq, anchoring ongoing liberalization in the Gulf, Lebanon, and Egypt, and threatening by example Iran and Syria. By the same token, it would be hard to see how we could stop jihadism from spreading when an army that is doing everything possible still could not stop Islamic fascism from taking over the ancestral home of the ancient caliphate.
Since MSNBC, CNN, TIME, et al have been telling us for the last 3 years that Iraq is headed for a civil war I will go with the people who are there and who know about these kind of things. Yes this could still go either way but for now calling this a Civil war is a great exageration and iresponsible.
Dr. Sanity thinks Hanson strikes the perfect balance in his piece.
Maxspeak thinks Hanson is crazy. I wonder if he has ever read 24 steps to liberty?
A Blog For All would like to hear Sunni’s calling for Unity.
Expose The Left Wonders as I did if the MSM is Hyping the unrest in Iraq. I directed them both to 24 Steps To Liberty
****update ***
the Guardian is reporting Civil war is definitely coming but it will be the Iraqi’s attacking Americans.
The shattered golden dome of Samarra is yet another milestone in George Bush’s “long war” - in which a civil war in Iraq shows every sign of being a devastating feature. But what sort of civil war? I am convinced it is not the type of war that politicians in Washington and London, and much of the western media, have been anticipating.
The past few days’ events have strengthened this conviction. It has not been Sunni religious symbols that hundreds of thousands of angry marchers protesting at the bombing of the shrine have targeted, but US flags. The slogan that united them on Wednesday was: “Kalla, kalla Amrica, kalla kalla lill-irhab” - no to America, no to terrorism.
Wait the Gaurdian is predicting this will all be blamed on the US? This is a shocking revelation coming from them.
************Update 2************
Healing Iraq is reporting fighting outside his home earlier today. HT/Michelle Malkin
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You mean like “what’s really going on in Iraq” that doesn’t increasingly demonstrate that the Iraq war was a strategic blunder of breathtaking proportions?
So far, everything this Republican administration had predicted regarding the war has failed to materialize…I guess they are due for some good news soon.
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Dear Sir,
Thanks for adding T.F Boggs, military blogger in Mosul, to your list. We read Sgt. Timothy Boggs and he does a great job. He and his buddies over there are young men that we can be proud of. He needs encouragement and more readers. We thank you for helping him in this area and we are sure you are doing your part to get the truth out to the American people as well. The truth shall keep us free! Now you have some new readers too.
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Thank you Ann for stopping by the blog. I will be commenting a little bit more on T.F. Boggs soon so please stay tuned 8).
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